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Post Post subject: PsiEx - BETA - Grammaton Archetype
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 03:24 AM
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Includes all the feedback from the Alpha.

Grammaton
For some cryptics, the way bullets travel through the air is a special pattern that can be used and manipulated for deadly attacks and abilities. These grammatons use handguns to destroy patterns and enemies alike.

Weapon and Armor Proficiency: Grammatons are proficient with all simple weapons, firearms, plus the rapier and shortbow. Grammatons are proficient with light armor but not with shields.

Pattern of the Gun: The grammaton gains the Amateur Gunslinger feat and the Gunsmithing feat. She also gains a battered gun identical to the one gained by the gunslinger. This ability replaces the Scribe Tattoo feat normally gained at 1st level.

Disrupt Pattern: The grammaton is only able to use the disrupt pattern ability when making ranged attacks with a handgun.

Gritted Patterns: At 4th level, the grammaton gains a grit pool equal to her Intelligence modifier and counts as a gunslinger of her level -4 for the purpose of taking deeds. This ability replaces the insight gained at 4th level.

Insightful Deed: At 6th level, the grammaton picks one deed for which she qualifies and gains that deed. This ability replaces the insight gained at 6th level.

Avoid Attacks (Su): A 7th level grammaton can mask her pattern to avoid attacks. Once per day as a move action, the grammaton gains total concealment (50% miss chance) for a number of rounds equal to her Intelligence modifier. Every two levels thereafter, the grammaton gains an additional daily use of this ability. This ability replaces the power known normally gained at 7th level.

Gun Kata: Starting at 10th level, the grammaton learns how to channel her disrupt pattern into vicious melee attacks through her guns. She can use her guns to perform melee attacks that deal 1d6 points of bludgeoning damage plus the base disrupt pattern damage, with a critical multiplier of 20/x2. The damage from enhanced disruption is not included in these attacks. This use of disrupt pattern is not limited to once per round.
For each successful melee attack made with a handgun, if that gun is loaded, the grammaton can make a free ranged attack with that handgun against the creature struck. These ranged touch attacks do not provoke attacks of opportunity. This ability replaces Hide in Plain Sight.


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Gritted Patterns: At 4th level, the grammaton gains a grit pool equal to her Intelligence modifier and counts as a gunslinger of her level -4 for the purpose of taking deeds. This ability replaces the insight gained at 4th level.



Should this either be level 5 or level -3? gaining the feature and being treated as a level 0 gunslinger doesn't seem to make sense.

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The wording on that part doesn't make much sense either. Since Gunslingers din't "take" deeds (which is to say, they don't choose their deeds because every deed is automatically available PC as they gain the required level), this could easily be taken to mean that the archetype gains every Gunslinger deed 4 levels late.

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Post Post subject: PsiEx - BETA - Grammaton Archetype
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Hmmm, we are missing that from the 4th level, they can choose a deed instead of an Insight, and that they should get a 1st level deed at 4th level. Weird.


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"Gritted Patterns: At 4th level, the grammatons gains a grit pool equal to her Intelligence modifier, counts as a gunslinger of her level -3 for the purpose of taking deeds, and gains access to a single deed available to a 1st level gunslinger. This ability replaces the insight gained at 4th level."

Better?


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Post Post subject: Re: PsiEx - BETA - Grammaton Archetype
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does counting as a gunslinger of level-3 for the purpose of taking deeds actually do anything? does the grammaton gain more deeds ever?

because the gunslinger generally speaking (as was pointed out) gets access to *all* deeds (apart from those granted via feats) when they gain levels. being counted as a gunslinger of level-3 for the purpose of taking deeds would imply that they get all deeds, but 3 levels later than a gunslinger would, yet the next sentence clearly indicates that is not the case.

and if they don't gain deeds in the future, then the first part is completely irrelevant, is it not? why not only have the part about choosing a single deed that a first level gunslinger can choose?

(also, you have incorrectly pluralised grammaton)

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Honestly, I'm not sure what the intent was there...

First, the grammaton already gets a grit pool at 1st level. Changing it to Int modifier instead of Wisdom I think is fine, but a bit underwhelming at the cost of an insight. Perhaps bumping the initial grit gained to full Int mod instead of just 1 is worth it.

Next, the grammaton already gets a 1st level deed via Amateur Gunslinger...

So, what I'd then say is the 6th level deed is a 3rd level or lower deed.

And call it a day...


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Here's what I mean:

Gritted Patterns: At 4th level, the grammaton’s grit pool is based on her Intelligence. At the start of each day, the grammaton gains a number of grit points equal to her Intelligence modifier (minimum 1). Her grit goes up or down throughout the day, but usually cannot go higher than her Intelligence modifier (minimum 1), though some feats and magic items may affect this maximum. This ability replaces the insight gained at 4th level.

Insightful Deed: At 6th level, the grammatons picks one 3rd level deed or lower and gains that deed. This ability replaces the insight gained at 6th level.


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Post Post subject: Re: PsiEx - BETA - Grammaton Archetype
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looks much clearer, but you pluralised grammaton again ^^

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